Nothing More than Clubs
Let’s talk about the Michigan/Florida controversy.
2008 Election History 101: The Democratic Party set guidelines and rules for how the states are allowed to carry out their primaries. Some of the rules were small and simple, such as “the candidates’ names must be listed in alphabetical order on the ballot,” and others were far more significant and meaningful, such as “you may not hold your primary before the date ______.” The date was different for most states, but each state received a window of time in which they were allowed to hold theirs. Each Party does this– Republicans too– and not just this season, but every election season. These rules are set down by Party officials, and for good reason. And the reason that the Parties tell the states when they can and cannot hold their primaries is because political strategy demands that some states vote before others. For instance: California cannot go first. They cannot be the first or even among the first to hold their primary, because it is such a huge state with so many delegates, that if it went first, the winner of California’s primary would receive loads of media attention, lots of support from delegates, and tons of money, on the notion that “well, if they can win California they’re pretty well set to win the rest.” And this is not always the case, obviously, so an early win in California would give democratic voters a false sense of who their candidate will be, thereby surprising and disenfranchising them later in the election season if the front-runner ends up being someone else. And what happens when voters are disenfranchised? They stop voting. Which, of course = bad for the Party.
So there is a method to the madness. Each Party sets these rules in place for specific and politically meaningful reasons.
So what happened this season to fuck it all up? Well, Michigan and Florida expressed their desire to break these rules and hold their primaries much earlier than allowed. The DNC (Democratic National Committee) told them– “Look, if you go through with this, we’re not counting your votes. Your delegates won’t be counted. I don’t know how else to phrase it. You’ll be holding your primary for nothing.” Like jackasses, both states decided to call the DNC’s bluff, and went through with it anyway, holding their primaries months before schedule. This threw off the Democrats’ election season, forcing other states to re-schedule their primaries, costing the Democratic Party money and resources. So what did they (the DNC) do? Exactly as they warned: they didn’t count their votes.
And now Florida and Michigan are “outraged” like little toddlers who’ve had their gummy bears taken away for misbehaving. “My God, how dare you do what you said you’d do?!” And they’re calling out the DNC as being undemocratic, or better yet, anti-American, because they’re “disrespecting and disregarding the traditions of democracy which demand that all votes be counted.” Hillary Clinton is eating this up, because she would do well in both states, meaning that if the DNC folds under pressure and decided to count Florida’s and Michigan’s votes, and/or Florida and Michigan are permitted to hold another primary, it will do her campaign a lot of favors. It’s a Hail Mary for the candidate who just got her ass kicked in both North Carolina and Indiana last night (yes, Indiana too, because she only won by 2% and was supposed to win by huge margins, meaning her “I’m more electable than Obama in November” argument is null).
Here’s what I think, because did you really expect me not to tell you?
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You broke the god damned rules. Get over it. It’s not like you weren’t warned multiple times. It’s not like anyone forced you to go outside your own Party’s guidelines and sabotage other states’ primary schedules. Secondly, it isn’t undemocratic not to count your votes, for two reasons. First of all, you made the choice not to have your votes counted by being pompous disobeying douche bags. I.e., it isn’t undemocratic not to count your vote when you asked for your vote not to be counted.
Secondly, these are the primaries, people. These are the elections to determine Parties’ nominees for the presidential election in November. No one is taking away your Constitutional right to vote in the General Election. No one is telling you that, come November, you won’t have a voice. These.are.primaries. And what are primaries? Primaries are Party-sponsored, Party-regulated, and Party-run elections to decide who best represents their Party. So when you flip the bird to your Party and decide not to accept the Party’s rules in the Party’s– not nation’s!– elections, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. And there is nothing undemocratic about it, because the Party system isn’t written into our Constitution, isn’t even a democratic ideal or principle, it is an informal invention and tradition. There are no laws or rights for Political Parties in the U.S. because they weren’t supposed to fucking exist in the first place. Therefore, Political Parties are legally and rightfully allowed to conduct themselves however they see fit. So this controversy over not counting two states’ primaries because they broke their own rules is no controversy at all. If Florida and Michigan don’t like it, they can leave the Party. No one’s stopping them.
Political Parties are like clubs. When the club’s president tells you that “X” is not acceptable behavior during club meetings, and you do “X” anyway, what the fuck do you expect? “ZOMG, u be tellin me not to do dis, den I be doin it n u gets upsetz?! Who culd of new?!” Or would you go about whining about principles of democracy? LULZ, shut up, it has nothing to do with that, you’re still going to get to help determine who will be the president… Just not who will be your party’s nominee. Why? Because you… fucked over your party. Logical deductions FOR THE WIN.
I think the only reason people feel as if they have any right to throw a hot little shitfit over this is because they bear the painful misconception that political parties are state-regulated/based in law, when they’re not. I mean, really, the Democratic and Republican parties don’t even have to hold primary elections at all. The Party officials could just meet around a table, flip a coin or play Pin the Tail on the Right Candidate, and choose that way, and it would be perfectly fucking okay. Just like if you joined a club at school, and they told you, “sure, you can join, but just so you know– we don’t eat cherries. If you eat cherries here, you’re out.” Fine! And if you have a problem with that, guess what amazing little option you have? LEAVE. When you choose to join an informal club such as a political party, you are choosing to respect and abide by the terms and conditions. This isn’t the fucking government. If the government refused to count your vote, or if the government told you that you aren’t allowed to eat cherries, that would be a HUGE fucking problem. Seriously. I would personally revolt. Yes, even over the cherries. Don’t mess with the maraschinos. But this isn’t the government! This is an informal group of crazies who rally around half-baked political ideals and spam your inboxes with petulant little bits of propaganda! That’s it! Nothing more!
And this is partly why I fucking despise Political Parties. Which is another post for another day, but yeah, I don’t do Parties. Hence half of the reason I registered as an Independent. Because I chose not to join. But you know what I didn’t do? I didn’t choose to join and then bitch about the terms involved in joining.
That’s Florida’s and Michigan’s job.
-Elysa
Jason said,
May 8, 2008 at 6:29 am
First off you are 100% right about Florida and Michigan voter needing to shut the fuck up about being disinfranchised, because the states representatives are dumbshits. For Clinton to pretend like the DNC is in the wrong for inforcing it ’s own rules makes me sick. The DNC has already said that the delegates from both states will be seated at the convention but not be able to vote. Maybe next time they will follow the rules!!! Now secondly I should say that I am for Obama. So of course my feeling on these issues are bias.
Tom_F said,
May 8, 2008 at 8:27 am
Well said Elysa!
I just hope this little “misunderstanding” doesn’t stop Democrats going to the booths when it really matters…I just don’t think I could handle another Republican, well not like the ones we’ve had lately anyway.
Laura said,
May 8, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Exactly. It really bothers me that only after the Democratic nomination doesn’t seem to be as clear-cut as people thought it woud be, are those states protesting that they didn’t get a chance to input their voice. Yea, well, screw you. And screw this two party system while we’re at it. Let’s go parliamentary.
Verena said,
May 8, 2008 at 11:44 pm
So are you saying that political parties are not in the constitution? Are they even mentioned? I really don’t know but I thought they were. Well, that’s interesting… I should probably go and read the US constitution now
Anyway, I agree in general on what you’ve said. But isn’t there that problem, that none of the candidates might get enough votes? Don’t they have that one number that they have to reach (what ever it is?) and I heard many people say that without counting the votes in Michigan and Florida it might be that neither Obama nor Clinton will reach those numbers. What’s going to happen then?
Keep up the work, I’m always happy whenever i can find a new post here.
Verena
Kevin said,
May 9, 2008 at 2:12 am
Amen.
Jacob said,
May 9, 2008 at 4:25 am
THANK YOU! couldn’t have said this any better myself!
Something that is lost is that the Republic National Committee issued sanctions on Florida and Michigan as well. I think it was something like half the delegates don’t count.
you don’t see them making a fuss about that.
And yeah, parties were not in the constitution, in fact, many of the founding fathers didn’t want parties, fearing stagnation and conflict. George Washington was elected to the presidency without representing a party.
josh said,
May 9, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Finally! And you know what? I vote we kick Florida out of the fucking union for screwing up so many damn elections already this century–okay, it was two, but that’s a godamn lot when it’s 2008. And Michigan probably thought they could do whatev b/c they’re shaped like mittens. Fuck mittens, and fuck thinking you can do wtf you want and then godamn clinton is like, “I won in both states! I won in both states! I’m a strong candidate and all the superdelegates should come back to me . . . I’ll give you a cabinet position?” and the O-man’s just like, “well hot damn, girl, my name wasn’t even on the ballet b/c I removed it like the party fucking told me to.”
Oh god. Thanks Elysa.
–josh
ps when you’re on MC talk more, b/c you say better things than the boys!
Samantha said,
May 9, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Well said. Most people have a complete misunderstanding of the primary system.
Also at this point it would be completely unfair to Obama to count Florida and Michigan’s delegates, because he knew Hillary was gonna win there, and he knew it wouldn’t matter anyway, so he didn’t bother with a huge campaign effort in either state. Some might say that his own fault for not spending time there, but thats like saying if a professor tells you for sure that chapter 2 isn’t going to be on the test, and then it is and you fail, that its your own fault for not reading the chapter.
Anyway, I have stopped making sense now so i’ll shut up, but I totally agree with your point.
obamasmanthruandthru said,
May 10, 2008 at 3:50 am
you guys are awesome. I love this site. Thanks alot. And very well said elysa. Ur totally right. The states broke the rule so they take the consequence its as simple as that. And in response to what verena said. No they dont have to have the primaries in these states. One there is a pretty good chance that one of them will reach the total (2025) anyway. And if they dont it doesn’t matter. There is a feature in this whole fucked up delegate system that if no one gets enough delegates they can still win. At the convention after they count and figure out no one will win the delegates get to choose. Kinda. They can pick one of they canidates if they think one is a better nominee. Or they can pick someone random if that person agrees to it. So no no one has to reach the total mark.
great job guys and keep up the good work.
Ps I love mugglecast!
lizbeth said,
May 15, 2008 at 2:34 am
A perfect combination of humor and politics (and I’ll remember not to mess with your cherries).
And, no, there isn’t any detailed section of the Constitution that explain political parties, because they just kind of sprung up. And there were three or four political parties throughout U.S. history. I fucking HATE social studies, but I pay attention to the stuff that helps me win debates. And that would be one of them (also i was reading parts of the Constitution today). Actually, I do pay attention, but it’s boring, I retain the knowledge because then I havea reason to proclaom how stupid this country can be sometimes.
Well…thta went way off topic. Thanks Elysa
Zara said,
May 16, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Verena, just so you know, as other people have said, political parties were not in the Constitution because at the time of the Constitutional convention, there weren’t organized political parties as we know them today. Like lizbeth said, they just kind of sprung up. ;D
Elysa, great job on this post! I didn’t really understand what was the big deal about it anyway–political parties are not government-regulated organizations, which means that they can set their own rules and enforce them. Is that so damn hard to understand?